u.s. con to the future of his firm. let's bring in our all-star "money" power panel to react what he said. chris whalen, executive vice president. dennis kelleher, better market ceo. scott martin, united advisors chief market strategist and fox business's very own dennis kneale. chris, let me start with you. what did you think? >> listening to jamie he called himself the general manager. i think that is a very good characterization. when you were talking about governance and separating the ceo and the chairman's role but he also alluded to the lead director. what we've seen since sarbanes-oxley legislation is the roles of directors have evolved. so even though you don't call them the chairman the lead director is really performing that role and he is up advising the ceo which is how it should be. i don't like the c suite inhabitants sitting on boards because they report to the board. it is really good i think as a general matter to separate the chairman and ceo role because it is a check and balance at the end of the da